You’ve probably noticed at this point that I don’t have much to say about recruiting. This results from some combination of (1) a personal outlook that tends to focus on the present and (2) a lack of patience to wade through all the message board chatter on recruiting. But with the late signing period starting yesterday, I thought I’d put up a post on the topic.
Happy Valley Hoops has a handy up-to-date list of Big Ten signings for the 2008 class, reflecting those signings that occurred yesterday and decommitments of previous signees (both occurring at Indiana). Warning: The number of stars on the recruiting sites for Ohio State’s incoming class can lead to temporary blindness.
Izzo had fulled all his open scholarship slots by signing Delvon Roe, Draymond Green, and Korie Lucious during the early signing period last fall. Here’s the official MSU bios on the three new guys:
Delvon Roe (F, 6-8, 220, Lakewood, Ohio/St. Edward High School) – 2007-08 Sporting News First-Team All-American … 2007 EA Sports National Junior of the Year … 2007 EA Sports All-America second team and Parade Magazine All-America fourth team … Averaged 22.5 points and 11.5 rebounds as a junior at St. Edward High School, leading his team to a 25-1 record, the Ohio Division 1 semifinals, a No. 23 final national ranking and a No. 5 Midwest Regional ranking by USA Today … Led St. Edwards in blocks (60) and steals (69) and was second in assists … Shot 40 percent from 3-point range as a junior … Runner-up for 2007 Ohio Mr. Basketball honors … Named 2007 Player of the Year in Ohio by the Cleveland Plain Dealer … All-Ohio Division I honoree … Participated in the 2007 USA Basketball Men’s Youth Development Festival, averaging 30.3 points (tournament best) and 10.3 rebounds … Ranked the No. 9 player overall in the nation by Scout.com, including the No. 2 power forward … Rated the No. 7 player in the ESPN 150, including the No. 2 power forward … Averaged 20.5 points, 10.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists and 2.2 steals as a sophomore … Named all-state honorable mention and all-district as a sophomore … Averaged 16.3 points, 9.6 rebounds and 3.2 blocks as a freshman, earning all-conference accolades … Plays AAU basketball for King James Shooting Stars … Plays for Coach Eric Flannery at St. Edward High School.
Draymond Green (F, 6-7, 230, Saginaw, Mich./Saginaw) – Averaged 25 points, 13 rebounds, three assists and three steals as a junior … Led Saginaw High School to the Michigan Class A State Championship and a 26-1 record … 2007 Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News Dream Team Member, the lone junior on the team … Shot 52 percent from the field and 73 percent from the foul line … First-team all-area and all-conference selection … Ranked the No. 98 player overall in the nation by Scout.com, including the No. 29 power forward … Rated the No. 77 player in the ESPN 150, including the No. 21 power forward … Averaged 12 points and 11 rebounds as a sophomore … Plays AAU basketball for the The Family, having previously played for the Michigan Mustangs … Plays for Coach Lou Dawkins at Saginaw High School.
Korie Lucious (G, 5-10, 165, Milwaukee, Wis./St. Pius XI High School) – Averaged 24.2 points, 5.4 assists, 4.3 steals and 2.6 rebounds as a junior at St. Pius XI High School, leading his team to a 19-4 record … Shot 48.3 percent from two-point range, 42.3 percent from 3-point range and 82.5 percent from the foul line … Named the 2007 Classic Eight Conference Player of the Year … First-team all-area selection … Participated in the 2007 USA Basketball Men’s Youth Development Festival, averaging 18.2 points, 4.0 rebounds and 3.4 assists … Ranked the No. 90 player overall in the nation by Scout.com, including the No. 11 point guard … Rated the No. 85 player in the ESPN 150, including the No. 9 point guard … Attended Rufus King High School as a sophomore, averaging 12.1 points, 6.5 assists and 2.3 steals … Plays AAU basketball for DTA Wisconsin … Plays for Coach Joel Classen at St. Pius XI High School.
Roe, of course, comes in with the highest profile and has the best shot at playing regularly as a freshman. Suton will play his 25-30 minutes at the 4/5 slots, but beyond that things are pretty wide open. Morgan may slide over to play some minutes at the 4 spot, as he did this past season, but I’d expect those minutes to go down with Neitzel’s 30-35 minutes to replace among the perimeter guys. Gray’s ability to contribute for more than 10-15 minutes/game is questionable at this point. And Ibok and Herzog are unlikely to contribute enough on offense to merit substantial minutes on a consistent basis.
I only saw Roe play once on TV–the game in which he hurt his knee. From what I saw, he could be the ideal Izzo big man–less of a traditional low-post scoring threat, but more of an all-around big guy who can rebound, defend, and handle the ball. And apparently he really wants to win, which is something Izzo tends to like in his players (to put it mildly). All indications are that his knee will be fully recovered by November, but missing live basketball for nearly all of his senior season could be a factor in how quickly he adapts to the college game.
Lucious’ minutes are likely to be limited as a freshman with Lucas and Walton ahead of him. With Walton’s graduation in 2009, Lucious will become the primary back-up to Lucas for the next two seasons (assuming Lucas doesn’t go pro early).
Green’s minutes are a wildcard going in the next season. They may hinge on whether Gray can get himself back into Izzo’s good graces and become a consistent contributor as a 20+ minute player.
Looking forward to the 2009-10 season, four scholarships will be available, with Suton, Walton, Gray, and Ibok leaving the program after next season. 6’10” Garrick Sherman from Kenton, Ohio is the only 2009 recruit to verbally commit at this point.
Izzo could hold one of those slots for the 2010 class, when only two slots will open up due to departing seniors (Morgan, Dahlman). And if Dahlman were to redshirt this next season (ala David Thomas), that would leave only one opening in 2010.
I’d think Izzo’d be looking for at least one wing player, if not two of them, for the 2009 class, since there are none in the current class. Jamil Wilson appears to be the best case scenario. Scholarship players currently expected to be in the program going into the 2009-10 season:
- Point guards (2): Lucas (junior), Lucious (sophomore)
- Wings (4): Morgan (senior), Dahlman (senior/rs junior), Allen (junior), Summers (junior) [plus walk-on rs sophomore Auston Thornton, who could contribute at some point]
- Big men (4): Herzog (rs junior), Roe (sophomore), Green (sophomore), Sherman (freshman)
There you go: Everything I know about the Spartan basketball recruiting outlook at this point. Those of you who follow this stuff more closely than I do should feel free to supplement/correct/dismiss my observations.